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Subject: Mashed Potatoes and Cramps!
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:13:20 -0600
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For the past 4 hours my hands have been painfully cramping up! It's been 
awful. They charley horse and disfigure beyond my control!

I couldn't figure out why. It just dawned on me!!!

For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for all the time and 
energy it took to hand crank them through the food mill, my hands are now 
cramping up from working "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

I don't make mashed potatoes often enough, obviously.

Anyone had this happen to them?

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From: Ravenlynne <ravenlynne[at]yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:20:31 -0500
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I get pain in my shoulder from it...not my hands, but I'm not surprised 
that you did..it's very possible.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:12 -0600
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Ravenlynne said...
> I get pain in my shoulder from it...not my hands, but I'm not surprised 
> that you did..it's very possible.

Ravenlynne,

I feel like such a couch potato at the moment.

Don't forget to write! :)

All the best,

Andy

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From: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" <shopalot[at]foodsource.eat>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:33:10 GMT
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Andy wrote:
> For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for all the time
> and energy it took to hand crank them through the food mill, my hands
> are now cramping up from working "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

Baloney.  It was all the beer you drank while preparing lunch ;)

Michael <- never had this happen 

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:58:40 -0600
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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan said...
> Baloney.  It was all the beer you drank while preparing lunch ;)
> 
> Michael <- never had this happen 

Michael,

Wish I HAD a beer!

It was quite a PITA. I spent equal effort keeping the mill steady over the 
bowl while cranking it. Next thing, the bowl is full and I'm holding the 
mill in one hand and cranking it with the other in mid air. I should've 
mashed them back into the pot! :(

BUM Food Mill!!!

On a bright note, they were delicious. Should've skipped the jarred "turkey 
sodium" gravy.

I found a recipe for mashed potato pancakes on foodTV for tomorrow's 
breakfast. Should be interesting.

Andy

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From: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" <shopalot[at]foodsource.eat>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:40:30 GMT
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Andy wrote:

> Wish I HAD a beer!

I'll fax one right over along with some Ibuprofen ;)

> It was quite a PITA. I spent equal effort keeping the mill steady over
> the bowl while cranking it. Next thing, the bowl is full and I'm
> holding the mill in one hand and cranking it with the other in mid
> air. I should've mashed them back into the pot! :(
> 
> BUM Food Mill!!!

That is precisely why I use the old fashioned potato masher with the 
handle. One can also work out their aggressions on the potatoes by using 
that method.  Besides, I like my mashed potatoes a little on the lumpy 
side.

> On a bright note, they were delicious. Should've skipped the jarred
> "turkey sodium" gravy.

Jarred gravy is full of sodium.  I do use it now and then in a pinch and 
have 1 each of pork, beef, chicken and mushroom in the pantry. 

> I found a recipe for mashed potato pancakes on foodTV for tomorrow's 
> breakfast. Should be interesting.

Do you remember if the recipe contains egg?  I *think* I tried one of 
Emeril's renditions of mashed potato pancakes and they were awful.  It 
contained egg to bind the potatoes and several other things which I have 
long forgotten.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:49:23 -0600
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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan said...
> Do you remember if the recipe contains egg?  I *think* I tried one of 
> Emeril's renditions of mashed potato pancakes and they were awful.  It 
> contained egg to bind the potatoes and several other things which I have 
> long forgotten.

The recipe I found at foodTV:

<a href="http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/the-best-of/potato-pancakes-recipe2/">http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/the-best-of/potato-pancakes-recipe2/</a>

It's about identical, a little less flour and more onion than Mr. 
Breakfast's version.

I visited <a href="http://mrbreakfast.com/">Mrbreakfast.com</a> and went over the reviews.

I'll make the Mr. Breakfast recipe.

Thanks again,

Andy

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From: Julie Bove <juliebove[at]verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:43:42 GMT
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Andy wrote:
> For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for all the time and
> energy it took to hand crank them through the food mill, my hands are now
> cramping up from working "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

Why don't you just get one of those mashers?  That's what I use and it 
doesn't cause my trouble.  Now come canning season my hands will cramp.  But 
I'm spending days on end peeling apples and pears. 

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From: yetanotherBob <yetanotherbob[at]gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:45:59 -0500
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Andy says...
> For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for all the time and 
> energy it took to hand crank them through the food mill, my hands are now 
> cramping up from working "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

Not yet with mashing potatoes, but definitely with other, similar 
repetitive "manual" stuff, like putting together a shelving unit that 
has umpteen bolts, nuts and lockwashers to torque down, using a "hand-
driven" screwdriver (remember those?).

But then again, did you add baking powder to the mashed potatoes?  If 
so, and if you also feel bloated or perhaps "lighter" or more "fluffy" 
than usual, I'd definitely suspect the baking powder.  Could be a sign 
of a latent allergy.  Keep an eye on it, but usually such symptoms pass.

How were the potatoes?  ;-)

Bob  

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:37:08 -0600
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yetanotherBob said...
> How were the potatoes?  ;-)

Bob,

Heh, heh, heh! No baking powder!

They turned out great! It's TOO simple, was just bad execution!

Andy

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:23:46 -0600
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Andy wrote:
> Heh, heh, heh! No baking powder!
> 
> They turned out great! It's TOO simple, was just bad execution!

I did not even read that thread... It sounded pointless and disgusting!

Baking powder in mashed potatoes?

Ew.  Just EW!!!

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 22 Jan 2007 23:54:16 GMT
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Andy wrote:
> For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for all the time
> and energy it took to hand crank them through the food mill, my hands
> are now cramping up from working "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

That must have been an *awful* lot of mashed potato, or your 'food mill' is 
a piece of crap and needs to be replaced :-)

I use a hand held masher. Works great, and no need to update it every 
couple of years ;-)

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:29:39 -0600
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Peter Lucas said...
> That must have been an *awful* lot of mashed potato, or your 'food mill'
> is a piece of crap and needs to be replaced :-)

Peter Lucas,

I used two pounds of Yukon Golds. (5 medium sized, quartered). The mill is 
small so I could only mill 3 quarters at a time. Still a slow process 
cranking, back-cranking, cranking. It probably would have been easier using 
it over the flat bottomed pot rather than the teetering mixing bowl! :(

> I use a hand held masher. Works great, and no need to update it every 
> couple of years ;-)

I've got the modern potato ricer and a handheld masher. Next batch I'll put 
the ricer to work.

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:22:46 -0600
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Andy wrote:
> I've got the modern potato ricer and a handheld masher. Next batch I'll put 
> the ricer to work.

Get a good food processor. :-)

Or a meat grinder...... -> ducking and running but not convinced that 
that would not work! <lol>

When we actually ate mashed spuds many moons ago, mom and I used a ricer 
and a stick blender.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:03:30 -0600
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Omelet said...
> Get a good food processor. :-)
> 
> Or a meat grinder...... -> ducking and running but not convinced that 
> that would not work! <lol>

Om,

When you think about it in terms of cleanup... the handheld masher wins!!!

The potato ricer is the easy second place finisher.

Thanks for helping me see it from a PRACTICAL point of view!

...meat grinder?!?

:)

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:48:49 -0600
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Andy wrote:
> When you think about it in terms of cleanup... the handheld masher wins!!!
> 
> The potato ricer is the easy second place finisher.
> 
> Thanks for helping me see it from a PRACTICAL point of view!
> 
> ...meat grinder?!?

It's worth a shot now that I actually have one... <G>

<winks>

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From: Mr Libido Incognito <Not[at]vaild.null>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:04:24 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
> It's worth a shot now that I actually have one... <G>

In taste tests the potato ricer made better mashed spuds...next the food 
mill and the potato masher came in third.

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 23 Jan 2007 23:49:12 GMT
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Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> In taste tests the potato ricer made better mashed spuds...next the food 
> mill and the potato masher came in third.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Now I know what a potato ricer is!!!

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_ricer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_ricer</a>

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:42:45 -0600
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Peter Lucas wrote:
> Now I know what a potato ricer is!!!
> 
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_ricer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_ricer</a>

I actually have a teensy one for garlic.
Best press I've ever had!

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 24 Jan 2007 03:59:17 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
> I actually have a teensy one for garlic.
> Best press I've ever had!

Yep, same same.

<a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/IGS590/is293-049/">http://www.fotosearch.com/IGS590/is293-049/</a>

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:21:08 -0600
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Peter Lucas wrote:
> Yep, same same.
> 
> <a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/IGS590/is293-049/">http://www.fotosearch.com/IGS590/is293-049/</a>

I do so seriously love that thing!!!

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From: ppnerkDELETETHIS[at]yahoo.com (Phred)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:23:58 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
>I do so seriously love that thing!!!

Jesus wept!  Did you notice the prices that mob want for a piccie of a 
bit of kitchen hardware and a lump of garlic?  Bloody hell!  Time I 
came out of retirement!  [Mind you, it does look like a pretty decent 
garlic press. :-) ]

Cheers, Phred.

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 25 Jan 2007 14:57:31 GMT
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Phred wrote:
> Jesus wept!  Did you notice the prices that mob want for a piccie of a
> bit of kitchen hardware and a lump of garlic?  Bloody hell!

*Yes*........ I did see he prices....... and thought "It's a 
mistake...... it has to be!!"

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:48:47 -0600
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Phred wrote:
> Jesus wept!  Did you notice the prices that mob want for a piccie of a 
> bit of kitchen hardware and a lump of garlic?  Bloody hell!

Sheeeite! I did not even look. :-)

Here, you can have mine for free, and it's a better pic imho!!!

http://i3.tinypic.com/3ycdvt1.jpg

I inherited this one.
I found it when going thru a box of my late Aunt's stuff. :-(

And yes, it's a very EXCELLENT garlic press.
I hated presses until I met this one. It does a seriously good job with 
no waste.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:41:15 -0600
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Omelet said...
> I inherited this one.
> I found it when going thru a box of my late Aunt's stuff. :-(
> 
> And yes, it's a very EXCELLENT garlic press.
> I hated presses until I met this one. It does a seriously good job with 
> no waste.

I have an old one that has a rectangular chute and finer holes. It did a 
better job of juicing rather than mincing garlic.

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:27:33 -0600
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Andy wrote:
> I have an old one that has a rectangular chute and finer holes. It did a 
> better job of juicing rather than mincing garlic.

I used to swear by mincing...

No longer. ;-)

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From: notbob <notbob[at]nothome.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:43:30 -0600
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Phred wrote:
> Jesus wept!  Did you notice the prices that mob want for a piccie of a 
> bit of kitchen hardware and a lump of garlic?  Bloody hell!  

Worse, looking around, a lot of their stock isn't even very good.

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:14:46 -0600
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notbob wrote:
> Worse, looking around, a lot of their stock isn't even very good.

I'm wondering if anyone is actually buying the pics.

I might have to go into business and start photographing kitchen 
appliances. <G>

Sell the pics for $.99 each...  or a CD of, say, 1,000 pics for $100.00.

It'd be worth compiling. :-)

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 28 Jan 2007 22:13:26 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
> I might have to go into business and start photographing kitchen 
> appliances. <G>
> 
> Sell the pics for $.99 each...  or a CD of, say, 1,000 pics for
> $100.00. 

I looked at the cost of the pics when I first went in search of those 
images and thought "Tell him he's *dreaming*!!!"

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:43:19 -0600
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Omelet said...
>> ...meat grinder?!?
> 
> It's worth a shot now that I actually have one... <G>

Grind some potatoes, eggs and onions in with your sausage recipe?

Put THAT dog on a roll!!! :)

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 23 Jan 2007 23:46:31 GMT
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What do you call one of these???

<a href="http://www.absolutestockphoto.com/photo_37804.html">http://www.absolutestockphoto.com/photo_37804.html</a>

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:41:48 -0600
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Peter Lucas wrote:
> What do you call one of these???
> 
> <a href="http://www.absolutestockphoto.com/photo_37804.html">http://www.absolutestockphoto.com/photo_37804.html</a>

A lot of work...

;-)

I really do like mom's ricer!

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 24 Jan 2007 03:58:05 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
> A lot of work...

LOL!!!

If you were 6'2" with big shoulders, it's no work at all!!

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:20:16 -0600
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Peter Lucas wrote:
> If you were 6'2" with big shoulders, it's no work at all!!

5' 6". medium framed, and out of shape. <G>

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 24 Jan 2007 23:52:29 GMT
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Omelet wrote:
> 5' 6". medium framed, and out of shape. <G>

Looks like the potatos will win :-)

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From: ppnerkDELETETHIS[at]yahoo.com (Phred)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:49:04 GMT
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Andy wrote:
> I used two pounds of Yukon Golds. (5 medium sized, quartered). The mill is 
> small so I could only mill 3 quarters at a time. Still a slow process 
> cranking, back-cranking, cranking. It probably would have been easier using 
> it over the flat bottomed pot rather than the teetering mixing bowl! :(

Geez, Andy, are your mashed spuds atomised?  I don't have any trouble 
mashing the damn things with a fork, right in the saucepan, to an 
acceptable consistency.  Mind you, I wouldn't usually be making as 
much as you did in this case.  Probably just two medium spuds. And, to 
me, "acceptable consistency" doesn't mean you can pour them from a 
jug. ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:43:09 -0600
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Phred said...
 
> Geez, Andy, are your mashed spuds atomised?

Almost! ;)

> I don't have any trouble 
> mashing the damn things with a fork, right in the saucepan, to an 
> acceptable consistency.  Mind you, I wouldn't usually be making as 
> much as you did in this case.  Probably just two medium spuds. And, to 
> me, "acceptable consistency" doesn't mean you can pour them from a 
> jug. ;-)

Phred,

The food mill creates very light, almost airy mashed potatoes (like the 
ricer does). It's after I add the melted butter and cream cheese and warm 
milk that it all sinks down and comes together into a smooth rich 
consistency.

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From: Peter Lucas <inbrissie[at]home.oz>
Date: 24 Jan 2007 12:58:40 GMT
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Andy wrote:
> The food mill creates very light, almost airy mashed potatoes (like
> the ricer does). It's after I add the melted butter and cream cheese
> and warm milk that it all sinks down and comes together into a smooth
> rich consistency.

Forget the milk, and the cream cheese.

Just add some, butter, some cream, and some cheese.

Oh!! And some roasted garlic :-)

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:21:50 -0600
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Andy wrote:
> The food mill creates very light, almost airy mashed potatoes (like the 
> ricer does). It's after I add the melted butter and cream cheese and warm 
> milk that it all sinks down and comes together into a smooth rich 
> consistency.

Try a ricer, followed up with a wand blender. ;-)

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From: James Silverton <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:21:59 -0500
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Hello, Andy! You wrote:
> For lunch I made a large batch of mashed potatoes and for
> all the time and energy it took to hand crank them through
> the food mill, my hands are now cramping up from working
> "unworked" muscles to excess!?!

Sorry for a late reply but the usual implement around my house 
is an old-fashioned pastry blender (sort of loops of stiff wire 
attached to both ends of a handle, see <a href="http://www.kitchenu.com/">www.kitchen-universe.com</a> 
for a picture.)  I suppose you might get cramp with that too and 
an electric mixer does work.

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From: Andy <q>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:39:28 -0600
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James Silverton said...
> Sorry for a late reply but the usual implement around my house 
> is an old-fashioned pastry blender (sort of loops of stiff wire 
> attached to both ends of a handle, see <a href="http://www.kitchenu.com/shop/home.aspx">www.kitchen-universe.com</a>
> for a picture.)  I suppose you might get cramp with that too and 
> an electric mixer does work.

James,

I BOUGHT one of those last year after watching a TV chef cutting cold 
butter into a biscuit mix. Went from the store to the junk drawer.

Mom used an electric variable speed handheld mixer with the two beaters. I 
remember THAT made quick work of mashed potatoes AND easy cleanup.

If I any intention of becoming a potato puff, I'd buy one. ;)

Andy

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From: James Silverton <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:56:05 -0500
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Hello, Andy! You wrote:
> Mom used an electric variable speed handheld mixer with the two beaters. I
> remember THAT made quick work of mashed potatoes AND easy cleanup.

Yes, the standard paddle on a KitchenAid works well too!

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From: Nancy2 <nancy-dooley[at]uiowa.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 2007 13:01:00 -0800
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Andy wrote:
> If I any intention of becoming a potato puff, I'd buy one. ;)

There's nothing like a hand pastry cutter for pastry.  I love mine;
actually, I have a wire one (Mom's) and my own (flat bladed).  Fingers
warms the butter (not good) and two knives is tedious and iffy.  Plus,
I use the pastry cutter to dice eggs for egg salad.

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From: Mr Libido Incognito <Not[at]vaild.null>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:05:45 GMT
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James Silverton wrote:
> Sorry for a late reply but the usual implement around my house 
> is an old-fashioned pastry blender (sort of loops of stiff wire 
> attached to both ends of a handle, see www.kitchen-universe.com 
> for a picture.)  I suppose you might get cramp with that too and 
> an electric mixer does work.

With an electric mixer you can over whip the spuds and get a snot-like 
substance...been there done that.

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From: "~xy~" <ByRequestOnly[at]cyber-rights.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:46:31 GMT
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Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> With an electric mixer you can over whip the spuds and get a snot-like
> substance...been there done that.

Ah... So you might think it's mashed potatoes, but it'snot...

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From: Omelet <omp_omelet[at]gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:26:35 -0600
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~xy~ wrote:
> Ah... So you might think it's mashed potatoes, but it'snot...

<cough>

;-)


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