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Subject: recipe for mango potatoes ?
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking

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From: Crashing Asthmatic 
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:01:09 -0700
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Hi all,
 I have been searching for  a recipe for Mango Potatoes (not mango
salsa, not mango beef with potatoes) since I was first denied the
recipe in Chicago in 1989 at Oprah's now defunct restaurant The
Eccentric by the uptight, cruel hearted, lying chef. *shakes fist in
Chicago's direction for the millionth time*
Has anyone ever heard of this recipe? I don't know, but I might assume
it is made with possibly sweet potatoes? The product at the end was a
lovely orangey color and and for the first and only time in my all-too
wheezy life , I ate and enjoyed potatoes that were not fried and
doused in ketchup. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ketchup.....
If anyone can help, it'd be much appreciated, though surprising.

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From: Dan Goodman 
Date: 07 Jul 2007 03:00:11 GMT
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If you don't get anything here, try asking on rec.food.recipes.

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:11:27 -0700
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> If you don't get anything here, try asking on rec.food.recipes.

Is that right?  I thought you could only post to rec.food.recipes.  I
didn't think dialogue was on the menu.

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From: Dan Goodman 
Date: 07 Jul 2007 03:49:32 GMT
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> Is that right?  I thought you could only post to rec.food.recipes.  I
> didn't think dialogue was on the menu.

I forget how you need to ask.  But if you follow the proper procedure,
your request will be bundled with others and posted.

It's less like dialogue than like having a robotic bureaucrat passing
on your message; but it works.

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From: Dan Goodman 
Date: 07 Jul 2007 03:58:28 GMT
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> I forget how you need to ask.  But if you follow the proper procedure,
> your request will be bundled with others and posted.
> 
> It's less like dialogue than like having a robotic bureaucrat passing
> on your message; but it works.

Here's the info:  Rec.food.recipes is a moderated newsgroup; only
recipes and requests for
recipes are accepted for posting. Please allow two to five days for your
submission to appear.

Lead Moderator      Patricia Hill
Recipes, requests, questions and comments: recipes@swcp.com

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From: sf
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:10:56 -0700
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Dee Dee wrote:
>Is that right?  I thought you could only post to rec.food.recipes.  I
>didn't think dialogue was on the menu.
>Thanks,

You can request recipes there, but you won't get back and forth
conversations like you see here, Dee Dee.

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From: Goomba38 
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:47:27 -0400
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> If you don't get anything here, try asking on rec.food.recipes.
 
Don't people in some backwoods or remote areas of the US call peppers 
"mangoes" ?? Could you be looking for something with potatoes and 
various colored peppers?

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From: Dan Goodman 
Date: 07 Jul 2007 04:00:47 GMT
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Don't people in some backwoods or remote areas of the US call peppers
> "mangoes" ?? 

1) Not in Chicago.  2) It's my impression that the original poster
knows what mangoes taste like -- and if anyone has managed to make bell
peppers taste like mangoes, I for one want the recipe.

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From: Goomba38 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:13:45 -0400
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> 1) Not in Chicago.  2) It's my impression that the original poster
> knows what mangoes taste like -- and if anyone has managed to make bell
> peppers taste like mangoes, I for one want the recipe.

Perhaps the recipe originator wasn't from Chicago? The name of the 
recipe might be misleading.

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From: Dan Goodman 
Date: 07 Jul 2007 05:58:42 GMT
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Perhaps the recipe originator wasn't from Chicago? 

The _restaurant_ was in Chicago.  I would expect the restaurant to have
a menu intelligible to Chicagoans.

>   The name of the
> recipe might be misleading.

That's plausible in general; for example, I've seen "Toad in the Hole"
used for the recipe in which one cuts a hole in a slice of bread and
then puts an egg in that hole and fries egg and bread.  This is
definitely not authentic Toad in the Hole.  (I've also heard/seen it
called Georgia Eggs, Gypsy Eggs, Egyptian Eggs, and various others
which don't come to mind right now.)

But I wouldn't expect a restaurant in Britain to serve it under that
name.

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From: Crashing Asthmatic 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:11:36 -0700
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Goomba wrote:
> Perhaps the recipe originator wasn't from Chicago? The name of the 
> recipe might be misleading.

Nope, it was mangoes and potatoes, I asked about the recipe and was
told that is was made from the fruit and the potato. I was shocked
because for once, potatoes tasted good to me and so did mangoes, lol!
I normally don't like either, but I am happy to try new foods and this
one has stuck in my brain for years; the chef agreed at first to give
me the recipe then got all cagey about it and in the end would not
give it. Grrrrrrrrrrrr...........

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From: Melba's Jammin' 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:43:06 -0500
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> 1) Not in Chicago.  2) It's my impression that the original poster
> knows what mangoes taste like -- and if anyone has managed to make bell
> peppers taste like mangoes, I for one want the recipe.

It's not the taste, Dan, it's the appearance.
Backwoods.  Remote.  Harrummpphh!

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From: George 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:38:50 -0400
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Don't people in some backwoods or remote areas of the US call peppers 
> "mangoes" ?? Could you be looking for something with potatoes and 
> various colored peppers?

I was thinking the same thing. When I was a kid we bordered a rural area 
and "mangoes" were bell peppers.

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:40:08 -0700
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George wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing. When I was a kid we bordered a rural area
> and "mangoes" were bell peppers.- Hide quoted text -

I grew up in a rural area. Green Bell Peppers were called mangos.  And
this area is not very rural now. But some of my relatives still call
green bell peppers, "mangos."

Plural of Mango spelled either way according to One Look dictionary =
mangos & mangoes.

In this area, adding mangos to potatoes are common, but they are
'green bell peppers.'

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From: Goomba38 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:43:34 -0400
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Dee Dee wrote:
> I grew up in a rural area. Green Bell Peppers were called mangos.  And
> this area is not very rural now. But some of my relatives still call
> green bell peppers, "mangos."

What did they call a mango (the fruit)??

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From: hahabogus 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:01:24 GMT
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Goomba38 wrote:
> What did they call a mango (the fruit)??

perhaps Fred maybe Bill?

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:57:08 -0700
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Goomba38 wrote:
> What did they call a mango (the fruit)??

Here is close to where I grew up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belpre,_Ohio

"Belpre is a city in Washington County, Ohio, along the Ohio River. It
is a suburb of Parkersburg, West Virginia. The population was 6,660 at
the 2000 census."

Some might want to call Belpre "midwest" as it is Ohio, but as it is
across the river from WV, well, I never considered WV midwest ;-))

The closest I ever heard to word mango was its relation to paw-paw,
which there has been quite a bit of debate about its origination, use,
etc. ad infinitum.  But what we saw in our 'neck of the woods' as paw-
paw were those trees grown wild and not very fruitful.  When we did
see them and eat them, as kids, they were a bit mushy from being ripe,
and tasted OK to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paw_Paw,_West_Virginia

Paw Paw is a town in Morgan County, West Virginia, United States. The
population was 524 at the 2000 census. The town is known for the
nearby Paw Paw Tunnel. Paw Paw was incorporated by the Circuit Court
of Morgan County on April 8, 1891 and named for the paw paw, a wild
fruit which formerly grew in abundance throughout this region.

An aside, the word, seafood, was not in our dictionary either. ;-)

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From: sf
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:25:13 -0700
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Dee Dee wrote:
>Paw Paw is a town in Morgan County, West Virginia, United States. The
>population was 524 at the 2000 census. The town is known for the

There is more than one Paw Paw....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paw_Paw,_Michigan

Paw Paw is a village in the U.S. state of Michigan. As of the 2000
census, the village population was 3,363. It is the county seat of Van
Buren County.

The village is located at the confluence of the east and south
branches of the Paw Paw River in the northeast portion of Paw Paw
Township, but is politically independent. Paw Paw was incorporated in
1837 and is located in the southwestern portion of Michigan, on
Interstate 94 approximately 20 miles west of Kalamazoo.

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:42:12 -0700
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sf wrote:
> There is more than one Paw Paw....

Thanks.  I see that it was named for the Paw Paw tree.  Interesting
that they grow best in shaded areas. I suppose that's why we found
them "in the wild" when we were kids roaming around picking berries,
etc.

An aside re:  Paw Paw, WV.  Interesting only if you are a fan of
"Asleep at the Wheel."  ('The Letter that Johnny Walker Read')

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asleep_at_the_Wheel
Asleep at the Wheel was created in Paw Paw, West Virginia in 1970.
They moved to California to get a record deal, then relocated to
Austin in 1973, at the suggestion of Willie Nelson.

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:40:18 GMT
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Dee Dee wrote:
>An aside re:  Paw Paw, WV.  Interesting only if you are a fan of
>"Asleep at the Wheel."  ('The Letter that Johnny Walker Read')

if you like asleep at the wheel, you should check out bob wills.
industrial strength.

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From: modom (palindrome guy) 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:13:58 -0500
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blake murphy wrote:
>if you like asleep at the wheel, you should check out bob wills.
>industrial strength.

I loved this book: http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Star-Swing-Trail-Playboys/dp/0393317560

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:58:01 -0700
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modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> I loved this book: http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Star-Swing-Trail-Playboys/dp/0393317560

Thanks. I'll keep an eye-out.

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:35:31 GMT
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modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>I loved this book: http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Star-Swing-Trail-Playboys/dp/0393317560

i will check it out.

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:54:49 -0700
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blake murphy wrote:
> if you like asleep at the wheel, you should check out bob wills.
> industrial strength.

Ahh, yes, I'm a fan.

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:37:26 GMT
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Dee Dee wrote:
>Ahh, yes, I'm a fan.

i do wonder if the guys in the band ever thought, 'i wish he'd shut
up.'

your pal,
leon

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:05:00 -0700
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blake murphy wrote:
> i do wonder if the guys in the band ever thought, 'i wish he'd shut
> up.'
>
> your pal,
> leon- Hide quoted text -

First, you're Blake, then Leon --
Whut?

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:01:10 GMT
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Dee Dee wrote:
>First, you're Blake, then Leon --
>Whut?

sometimes my identity crises interfere with my mid-life crisis.

your pal,
blake

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:57:29 -0700
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blake murphy wrote:
> i do wonder if the guys in the band ever thought, 'i wish he'd shut
> up.'

I've wondered the same thing.  I suppose everyone does; to me it's so
funny as to be enjoyable.  I get a jolt everytime I hear him "do the
things he does."

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:55:47 GMT
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Dee Dee wrote:
>I've wondered the same thing.  I suppose everyone does; to me it's so
>funny as to be enjoyable.  I get a jolt everytime I hear him "do the
>things he does."

yeah, it's fun.  i like it much better than oscar peterson grunting
all the time.

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:00:16 -0700
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blake murphy wrote:
> yeah, it's fun.  i like it much better than oscar peterson grunting
> all the time.

Adding to the list of grunters: Glenn Gould and Keith Jarrett --

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From: blake murphy 
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:15:43 GMT
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Dee Dee wrote:
>Adding to the list of grunters: Glenn Gould and Keith Jarrett --

i don't listen to classical, so i don't know from glenn gould.  keith
jarret might be inadvisable in any case.

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From: Melba's Jammin' 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:41:56 -0500
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Don't people in some backwoods or remote areas of the US call peppers 
> "mangoes" ?? Could you be looking for something with potatoes and 
> various colored peppers?

Backwoods?  Remote?  Well, I NEVAH!
Mangoes is/was an old name for *pickled stuffed sweet peppers.*  Mom 
made them (I've got her recipe somewhere) -- ripening peppers (reddish 
yellowish, hence the mango name) stuffed with a spiced sweet-sour 
cabbage mixture.    Pretty good.
Backwoods.  Remote.  Harrummpphhhh!!

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From: Goomba38 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:46:07 -0400
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> Backwoods?  Remote?  Well, I NEVAH!
> Mangoes is/was an old name for *pickled stuffed sweet peppers.*  Mom 
> made them (I've got her recipe somewhere) -- ripening peppers (reddish 
> yellowish, hence the mango name) stuffed with a spiced sweet-sour 
> cabbage mixture.    Pretty good.
> Backwoods.  Remote.  Harrummpphhhh!!

LOL.. ok.. backwoods, remote OR in Minnie-soda! :)
Seriously though..I always heard it was places like the midwest called 
peppers "mangoes" and wondered what they called the fruit then? Or was 
that just too exotic and no one called them anything because they 
weren't commonly known of?

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From: rosie 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:52:36 -0700
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Goomba38 wrote:
> LOL.. ok.. backwoods, remote OR in Minnie-soda! :)
> Seriously though..I always heard it was places like the midwest called
> peppers "mangoes" and wondered what they called the fruit then? Or was
> that just too exotic and no one called them anything because they
> weren't commonly known of?

 Well, I was born and raised in Southern Indiana, and we call Green
pepper" Mangoes" . Now , what did we call Mangoes?? I do not think any
one ever heard of them and they wereneither grown or found in
Supermarkets in thaat part of the world.

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From: sf
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:26:04 -0700
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>Mangoes is/was an old name for *pickled stuffed sweet peppers.*  Mom 
>made them (I've got her recipe somewhere) -- ripening peppers (reddish 
>yellowish, hence the mango name) stuffed with a spiced sweet-sour 
>cabbage mixture.    Pretty good.

and now I know why it's called "mango".  Thanks

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:35:41 -0700
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sf wrote:
> and now I know why it's called "mango".  Thanks

Barb, we also had something similar that was canned with a mix of
grated/sliced/chopped sweet peppers and cabbage.  It was pickled; for
years, I tried to find a recipe for it.  We called it 'chow-chow.' No
corn.  We didn't use it as a true relish, but more as a side vegetable
as you would the pickled green-bean mix.

Only the simplest of vegetables were raised on the farm(s). There
wasn't even onions, so I'm sure there were onions in it.

We did raise a lot of corn and had a cannned corn 'relish.'

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From: The Cook 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:55:02 -0500
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>Mangoes is/was an old name for *pickled stuffed sweet peppers.*  Mom 
>made them (I've got her recipe somewhere) -- ripening peppers (reddish 
>yellowish, hence the mango name) stuffed with a spiced sweet-sour 
>cabbage mixture.    Pretty good.

I just found a recipe for "pepper mangoes" in Edition G of "The Ball
Blue Book of Canning and Preserving Receipts."  It calls for chopped
cabbage, cloves celery seed, etc.  I will type the whole recipe if any
is interested.

The G edition is probably from about 1915.  

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:25:40 -0700
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The Cook wrote:
> I just found a recipe for "pepper mangoes" in Edition G of "The Ball
> Blue Book of Canning and Preserving Receipts."  It calls for chopped
> cabbage, cloves celery seed, etc.  I will type the whole recipe if any
> is interested.

So you wouldn't have to type it, I started looking around for any Ball
Books I have, but in the last clean-up, they must've gone to the
library book sale. Darn!  Well, the recipe probably wasn't in the one
or two books I had anyway.

1915 sounds about right for the time my grandmothers were making this
in the late 20's on.

I searched the web for anything similar, but didn't see it.  Just
something similar to the stuffed peppers that Barb was speaking about.

If you'd like, you can just type the ingredients and a little about
the mixing.  The canning part is not a concern, unless someone else
wants it.

I was a fool to give away these book(s); I hope someone is using
them.  I'm glad you took the time to look.  I always appreciate this.

Thanks,Susan.

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From: sf
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:18:26 -0700
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Dee Dee wrote:
>So you wouldn't have to type it, I started looking around for any Ball
>Books I have, but in the last clean-up, they must've gone to the
>library book sale. Darn!  Well, the recipe probably wasn't in the one
>or two books I had anyway.

I looked on the internet for the name Susan gave you.... is this the
recipe?  It's on two sites.
http://www.recipesource.com/fgv/pickles/01/rec0114.html
http://www.free-recipes.co.uk/free-recipes/recipe-07073.asp

Mangoes

Recipe Cuisine: Pickles
Recipe Category: Pickles
Recipe Serves: 6
Recipes Ingredients:

12 med Green peppers or green tomatoes
1/2 tsp White pepper
2 TB Mustard seed
1 c Salt
1 qt Vinegar
1 qt Shredded cabbage (about 1-medium head)
2 c Water
1/4 c Sugar
1 tsp Salt
 
Recipe Instructions:

(Stuffed peppers or Green Tomatoes) Cut tops of peppers or tomatoes;
reserve. Scoop out centers. Dissolve 1 cup salt in 4 quarts cold
water; pour over Vegetable shells and tops; let stand 24 hours in a
cool place. Drain; rinse and drain thoroughly. Combine cabbage, 1 tsp.
salt and pepper and mustard seed; press into shells. Replace tops and
fasten with toothpicks or sew with coarse thread. Pack into Hot Ball
jars, leaving 1/8 inch head space. Combine vinegar, water and sugar.
Bring to boiling and pour boiling hot, over peppers, leaving 1/8 inch
head space. Adjust caps. Process 15 minutes in boiling water bath. 

Yield: About 3 quarts. 

Note: If desired stuff vegetable shells with any relish you prefer. 

From: The Ball Blue Book Shared By: Pat Stockett 

##
wondering how we went from potatoes (in the subject header) to bell
peppers?

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From: Dee Dee 
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:21:49 -0700
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sf wrote:
> I looked on the internet for the name Susan gave you.... is this the
> recipe?  It's on two sites.

Well, it certainly does have the ingredients. I saw this recipe on the
internet, or something similar, but discounted it because it was
'stuffed' peppers or 'stuffed' green tomatoes.

One would have to adjust the ingredient ratio of 12 gr peppers to 1/2
head of cabbage, as I recall (although it has been decades ago) that
is was more cabbage than green pepper/tomato.

I'll bet anything that  green tomatoes were used more often than green
peppers on our farm. I don't ever recall either letting a green pepper
ripen, but they probably did and maybe added a few.

Think I'll pick up some green cabbage and green pepper this week at
the grocery and wing it.

Thanks so much; appreciated.

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From: Chatty Cathy 
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:57:18 +0200
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Crashing Asthmatic wrote:
>  I have been searching for  a recipe for Mango Potatoes (not mango
> salsa, not mango beef with potatoes) since I was first denied the
> recipe in Chicago in 1989 at Oprah's now defunct restaurant The
> Eccentric 
 
Probably not quite what you are looking for, but it sounds good anyway:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/mangopotatosalad_13804.shtml


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